# Bernie Sanders and the Ultraleft

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**Created:** [April 13, 2025, 11:13pm UTC](https://spaceisameansofproduction.discourse.group/t/bernie-sanders-and-the-ultraleft/317 "2025-04-13T23:13:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![johnka.66](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/spaceisameansofproduction.discourse.group/johnka.66/32/269_2.png) [@johnka.66](https://spaceisameansofproduction.discourse.group/u/johnka.66)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2025, 11:13pm UTC](https://spaceisameansofproduction.discourse.group/t/bernie-sanders-and-the-ultraleft/317/1 "2025-04-13T23:13:59Z")

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Ultraleftists bagging on Bernie are silly. They say he’s sheepdogging, but they’re also promoting their own sects.

I don’t think it’s either-or about supporting Democrats. It’s a big tent party, and the main thing they want is your vote. It’s not like there’s a viable national or even state-level alternative to them (excepting the GOP, but they’re in fashyland).

We may see one or both parties collapse as the status of the American sphere of influence crumbles, but until that happens, we have what we have.

However, we should at least prepare for a collapse of either party, and have infrastructure set up to grow our existing issue-based movements, identity politics groups, and labor organizations.

Maybe study the collapse of the Whigs and the creation of the Republican Party in 1860.

Until then, we have the Democrats, and we have Bernie Sanders at the lead of a progressive, but growing, minority faction within the Democrats.

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**Author:** ![Feminist\_Lo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/spaceisameansofproduction.discourse.group/feminist_lo/32/5_2.png) [@Feminist\_Lo](https://spaceisameansofproduction.discourse.group/u/Feminist_Lo)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2025, 11:19pm UTC](https://spaceisameansofproduction.discourse.group/t/bernie-sanders-and-the-ultraleft/317/2 "2025-04-13T23:19:24Z")

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I’m so annoyed, but I have to realize that owing to the world that I am in, they are way more amplified in my universe than generally, but I’m writing something on this issue—well on what is Bernie and AOC doing. You were so lucky to be in LA, I hope you were able to go downtown LA.

I was supposed to be in LA yesterday, but some flight issue ruined that…sigh…

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**Author:** ![johnka.66](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/spaceisameansofproduction.discourse.group/johnka.66/32/269_2.png) [@johnka.66](https://spaceisameansofproduction.discourse.group/u/johnka.66)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 3:28am UTC](https://spaceisameansofproduction.discourse.group/t/bernie-sanders-and-the-ultraleft/317/3 "2025-04-14T03:28:00Z")

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I’m getting my shit together and doing taxes. My taxes situation is super stupid, and has been for the past few years, and I need to catch up.

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**Author:** ![johnka.66](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/spaceisameansofproduction.discourse.group/johnka.66/32/269_2.png) [@johnka.66](https://spaceisameansofproduction.discourse.group/u/johnka.66)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 9:41am UTC](https://spaceisameansofproduction.discourse.group/t/bernie-sanders-and-the-ultraleft/317/4 "2025-04-14T09:41:25Z")

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Made a post with some comments, a video of the LA rally, and some older content about Kamala’s loss.

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